Bron is joined by James Clarke (Clinical psychologist/PhD candidate) to unpack emotional labour. Get ready for a huge dose of validation as James confirms that delivering therapy is not just ‘tea and biscuits’ – it’s REALLY hard work! They chat about ?? The unique emotional labour that psychologists undertake?? Strategies to manage emotional labour in session ? How to decompress outside of sessions ?? Why we are self-compassion converts.

Mental Work is the podcast unpacking the challenges faced by early career psychologists, so they don’t have to go it alone. Hosted by Dr Bronwyn Milkins.


James’ research article, ‘Managing emotional labour in the provision of psychotherapy’ (it’s such a good read! A++)

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